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		<title>Mini Debian Conference at Nitte, near Mangalore &#8211; Overview</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Praveen A</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just back in Pune after 4 days in Nitte in between Mangalore and Udupi in Karnataka state. The best part was the awesome food we had every single day! I never liked Sambar in my 3+ years in Bangalore, but it was so awesome here! (I don&#8217;t know how many times I can use the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 710px"><a href="https://poddery.com/posts/81238"><img alt="NMAMIT, Nitte" src="https://poddery.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_b4f18910134288ad5c72.jpg" title="NMAMIT, Nitte" width="350" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">NMAMIT, Nitte</p></div>
<p>Just back in Pune after 4 days in Nitte in between Mangalore and Udupi in Karnataka state. The best part was the awesome food we had every single day! I never liked Sambar in my 3+ years in Bangalore, but it was so awesome here! (I don&#8217;t know how many times I can use the word &#8216;awesome&#8217; in a blog!) I still think the &#8220;Mangalorean Pomfret Masala&#8221; was bliss! </p>
<p><a href="https://poddery.com/posts/81241"><img alt="Jonas Smedegaard" src="https://poddery.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_1c50b183bfeccd60c8b1.jpg" title="Jonas Smedegaard" class="aligncenter" width="350" /></a></p>
<p>Of course meeting awesome people is given, for any Free Software conference, so I don&#8217;t have to highlight that <img src='http://www.j4v4m4n.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Chandan had interviewed <a href="http://wiki.jones.dk/DebianAsia2011" title="Jonas' Trip details" target="_blank">Jonas Smedegaard</a> and it was excellent &#8211; both questions and answers! The best question was &#8220;what is your message to Canonical/Ubuntu?&#8221; We had to cut the interview and let him think about an answer. He said &#8220;When a kid leaves their home, we just say best of luck with whatever you do. Ubuntu is like a kid leaving home to debian &#8211; so best of luck!&#8221; It was so thoughtful and graceful, at debian ubuntu has always been a strain &#8211; how do we deal with it? It looks like most people have swallowed the bitter pill and adjusted to Ubuntu being more popular. Jonas kept telling Ubuntu is also a debian user and we have made an oath &#8220;<a href="http://www.debian.org/social_contract" title="Debian Social Contract" target="_blank">Our priorities are our users and free software</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>There is much more to write, hopefully I will find some time to write more later.</p>
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		<title>Mini DebConf India 2010: One of the best Free Software events we organised</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 22:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Praveen A</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Debian Community in India has been conducting developer meetings since 2005. (See Debian Developers Conference page for details about previous editions). In 2005 it was a dedicated debian event, but we organised annual gathering of debian people along with foss.in in the following years. We even had a Debian Project leader (Sam Hocevar) attending our [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debian Community in India has been conducting developer meetings since 2005. (See <a href="http://www.fosscommunity.in/wiki/Debian/Conf">Debian Developers Conference</a> page for details about previous editions). In 2005 it was a dedicated debian event, but we organised annual gathering of debian people along with<a href="http://www.foss.in"> foss.in</a> in the following years. We even had a Debian Project leader (Sam Hocevar) attending our event and taking about <a href="http://foss.in/2007/register/speakers/talkdetailspub.php?talkid=395">how Debian gives back to the community</a>. This time we again had a dedicated Debian event.</p>
<p><center><img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12269-2/100_1129.jpg" alt="Kartik Mistry in Lab" /></center></p>
<p>It all started with <a href="http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DebianIndia/message/461">an email about conducting another dedicated debian developers gathering</a> in DebianIndia group. The idea was well received and we started planning the event. It took a while to decide on a date for event, but rest is &#8211; as they say &#8211; history! Abhijth offered to host it in COEP and Vipul was ready to host it in PICT. We decided to choose COEP, because Free Software community was already active there.</p>
<p>We had a rocking event thanks to hard work of a lot of people. I have to mention Abhijit, Vipul, Kartik and Pavithran who were there from the beginning to end in making this event a success.</p>
<p>Abhijit&#8217;s enthusiasm and passion for Free Software has been very critical for making this event possible. He has been instrumental in creating a vibrant Free Software community in COEP.</p>
<p>Vipul was our official designer and he made sure we have good posters, tshirts, buttons, stickers &#8230; He is also working hard to bring up an active community in PICT.</p>
<p><center><img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12743-2/100_1300.jpg" alt="Vipul and Kushal"/></center></p>
<p>Kartik has been always there for Debian and he was instrumental in making sure we are a debian proper event. Of course, he advocated me to be a DM <img src='http://www.j4v4m4n.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Pavithran has been our main spokesperson on irc and his interactions with debian community helped us in making sure debian people knew about this event. He was there from Friday to Monday and made sure we have everything in place.</p>
<p>There were lot many people who helped in many ways.</p>
<p><center><img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12794-2/100_1317.jpg" alt="Students in Hall"/> <br />
<img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12626-2/100_1256.jpg" alt="Students in Hall"/></center></p>
<p>Naveen Kumar has been encouraging me in every step and interactions with him every day helped make this event much more organised. He was insistent on meticulous planning even to the minute details.</p>
<p>Kushal Das for having played and excellent role. I guess every one got a clear understanding of upstream and downstream. I found having upstream author, maintainer, mentor and sponsor at the same place was a wonderful way of demonstrating the relationship between different communities in the Free Software world. Back and forth between me and Kushal about copyright was the best part. Understanding about how copyright is fundamental to being part of the Free Software community.</p>
<p>Onkar Shinde for helping me with my intro talk and workshop. Being part of Ubuntu and Debian gave a different perspective and it was an important one.</p>
<p>Amit Karpe and PLUG team for joining with us for organising this event. It was good to see him contact us and offer help.</p>
<p>Sasikumar sir of CDAC for supporting this event and making sure we have a good interaction with BOSS team. Also for coming as a chief guest and delivering and inspiring inaugural address.</p>
<p><center><img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12668-2/100_1273.jpg" alt="Shirish asking questions"/></center></p>
<p>Ashok Kumar and BOSS team for a healthy dialogue. Hopefully, we can work together more closely after this interaction.</p>
<p>Vikram Vincent for his energetic talk, he was talking to students in their own language.</p>
<p>Raghavendra for sharing his vision and experience.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m definitely going to miss many volunteers&#8217; names because I have interacted directly with only small number of them and I don&#8217;t<br />
remember most of their names <img src='http://www.j4v4m4n.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   I will attempt some names Swapnil, Avinash, Madhur, Aswin and many more.</p>
<p><center> <img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12281-2/100_1133.jpg" alt="Volunteers"/></center></p>
<p>Plus all the awesome participants, who stayed up till 10 pm on first day, came at 8 am on the second day and stayed till 8pm, that is quiet an effort. Again I will try some names, but I know it is incomplete, Arnav, Vivek, Sana, Priyanka, Sushant, Raghavendra &#8230;</p>
<p>Oh yeah Ninad Pundalik was helping with the workshop and his microblogs. Ramakrishna for his great insights. Shirish was keeping the sessions alive with lot of questions. </p>
<p>Karunakar helped answering some questions on input methods. His presence itself is great motivation for any FOSS event. We planned a session with him, but he had other plans on that day, which got canceled at the last moment, so he could come for the event.</p>
<p><center><img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12692-2/100_1282.jpg" alt="Karunakr" /> </center></p>
<p>Pravin Chavan from CoEP for arranging delivary of flex,buttons,and bunking whole day of college!for placing order of<br />
tshirts in desperate times..</p>
<p>And of course our sponsors Media Magic Technologies and Nexenta systems. Hopefully Linux For You will cover this event in their coming edition. </p>
<p>An old Chinese saying says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Give a person a fish, and you feed them for a day. Teach a person how to fish, and you feed them for a lifetime.</p></blockquote>
<p>That has been my approach through out the workshop. I taught them where to find the information they need, gave hints when they needed it, shared my experiences. I started with asking them to search for &#8216;debian policy&#8217; and keep it open in a tab. Then &#8216;debian new maintainer guide&#8217; and lekhonee. It is important to remember the key words, we can always find the link with a search engine. </p>
<p>Next step was building the package from source. Instead of telling them what packages they need to install, I helped them find it out by themselves. First rule is always read README. It mentioned names of dependencies by their upstream/generic names. But they still had to find out debian package names because most of the time debian allows multiple versions of the same software, especially libraries to be present in the system. In those cases version of the library/software gets added to the package name. apt-cache search &#8216;upstream name&#8217; lists packages with that name. But for building packages we need development libraries so they need to search &#8216;upstream name dev&#8217;. Once they found out package names for all the dependencies, every one built the package from source. I think it was Swapnil, who volunteered to show the students how to build a software from source.</p>
<p><center> <img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12458-2/100_1193.jpg" alt="Praveen"/></center></p>
<p>Now we have all the required dependencies, so I asked them to improve README file with this information. Swapnil volunteered to improve README, but could not send to debian bug tracker on first day as we were getting late. On second day we were supposed to submit the bug report, but diff file was saved on Onkar&#8217;s laptop. So Raghvendra volunteered to do it again and others helped him with package names. This involved modifying code to improve it and creating patch. After we have the diff file ready, we <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=592198">submitted it to debian bug tracker</a>. </p>
<p>Next step was getting them familiarised with <a href="http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/">wnpp</a>. So I showed them and <a href="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=585827">example ITP for burg</a> and asked them to create the template for lekhonee-gnome in a text editor. They had to look in the AUTHORS file for upstream author. Then came the interesting part of license.</p>
<p><center> <img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12314-2/100_1144.jpg" alt="Kartik and Pavithran"/> </center></p>
<p>Everyone said the license is GPLv3, but Kushal insisted it is GPLv2. So we had to double check. It turned out COPYING file mentioned license as GPLv3, Kushal copy-pasted it from somewhere <img src='http://www.j4v4m4n.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But before we could report it as bug, he fixed it upstream! But still Vivek insisted it is LGPLv3 (<a href="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=580073">I also made the same mistake in my ITP</a>). So I told them to run &#8216;licensecheck -r *&#8217;. This command lists out license of individual source files in the archive. Some of them had to search for this and install devscripts. Output of this command showed, individual files had a mix or LGPLv3 and GPLv2+.</p>
<p>Once we listed all licenses of individual files, the next logical step was finding out license of the combination as a package. We looked up text of <a href="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html">GPL</a> and <a href="http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html">LGPL</a> licences on the internet.</p>
<p>I asked them to look at the relevant sections of each license to understand what each of the licenses say about derivative works.</p>
<p>Section 2b of GPLv2 clarifies the license of the whole program should remain as GPLv2+</p>
<blockquote><p>2b)  You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License. </p></blockquote>
<p>Section 4 of LGPL gives user a choice of license for combined works.</p>
<blockquote><p>
4. Combined Works.</p>
<p>You may convey a Combined Work under terms of your choice that, taken together, effectively do not restrict modification of the portions of the Library contained in the Combined Work and reverse engineering for debugging such modifications &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>If we want to comply with GPL&#8217;s requirement of same license for derivative work and LGPL&#8217;s choice of any license, the result is GPLv2+. (See <a href="http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/lekhonee-gnome/current/copyright">debian/copyright file for lekhonee-gnome</a>. It makes debian package GPLv3+, may be I should keep it at GPLv2+, I will think about it when I prepare next update). </p>
<p><center> <img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12497-2/100_1206.jpg" alt="Abijith"/></center></p>
<p>Next field in ITP is description, everyone just copied the description  given by Kushal, without thinking much about it (I did it too when I filed ITP &#8211; but <a href="http://ftbfs.wordpress.com/">Kartik</a> made me change it to something more useful to users). I told them to be creative and think about users when writing descriptions.</p>
<p>It is already a long post and I better post it now, <a href="http://look-pavi.blogspot.com/">Pavithran</a> has been behind me for my blog <img src='http://www.j4v4m4n.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>To conclude, we ran dh_make and modified template files to build the debian package! If I feel like writing more, I will write more about the event later.</p>
<p>Thanks to Pavithran for photos (<a href="http://pavithran.org/pics/v/techy/deb/">Pavithran&#8217;s Gallery</a>). <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIndia/MiniDebConf2010#After-event">More blogs and after event activities</a>. You can also get involved! Come to #debian-in at <a href="irc://irc.oftc.net">irc://irc.oftc.net</a></p>
<p><center><img src="http://pavithran.org/pics/d/12488-2/100_1203.jpg" alt="Schedule"/> </center></p>
<p>PS1: I started with<a href="https://fedorahosted.org/lekhonee/"> lekhonee-gnome</a>, but it supports saving drafts only once. So <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/lekhonee/ticket/6">reported a defect</a> and moved to web interface.<br />
PS2: As usual, I went into minor details, because they say &#8220;devil is in the details&#8221;. I hope sharing this experience in detail will help other people organising Free Software events.</p>
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		<title>One-stop support for Debian on selected HP servers</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Praveen A</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is great to see HP support for Debian GNU/Linux on its Servers and ThinClients. HP gives your organization a single point of service accountability for community-supported Debian GNU/Linux distributions. Our close relationship with the Debian community — coupled with our engineering investment to qualify specific distributions to run on selected HP ProLiant and BladeSystem [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is great to see HP support for Debian GNU/Linux on its Servers and ThinClients.</p>
<blockquote><p>HP gives your organization a single point of service accountability for community-supported <a href="http://h71028.www7.hp.com/enterprise/cache/433095-0-0-0-121.html">Debian GNU/Linux distributions</a>. Our close relationship with the Debian community — coupled with our engineering investment to qualify specific distributions to run on selected HP ProLiant and BladeSystem servers — enables us to supplement your in-house expertise in addressing Debian-specific software technical problems and related server issues.</p>
<p>Experienced HP Services professionals collaborate with your IT team to identify Debian GNU/Linux-related problems, and they offer trustworthy advice on known software fixes. For unresolved problems, HP will work with the Debian community to develop bug fixes and help ensure their inclusion in future distributions.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://h71028.www7.hp.com/services/cache/442406-0-0-0-121.html">More details of the offering</a></p>
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		<title>Dunc-Tank: Success or failure?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Praveen A</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Debian Project leader Anthony Towns was intervied by Liz Tay and it has some very interesting comments. Do you think Dunc-Tank has been successful as an experiment? There was a definite effect [of funding] on it [etch], and there were some other indirect effects as well, such as the Dunc-Bank project, in which a group [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debian Project leader Anthony Towns was intervied by Liz Tay and it has some very interesting comments.</p>
<blockquote><p>Do you think Dunc-Tank has been successful as an experiment?</p>
<p>There was a definite effect [of funding] on it [etch], and there were some other indirect effects as well, such as the Dunc-Bank project, in which a group of people, mostly from France, didn&#8217;t like the idea of paying people at all and set up a project that would work with Debian&#8217;s guidelines and try and improve Debian, but in such a way that Dunc-Tank would fail and wouldn&#8217;t release on time.</p>
<p>They decided to do some really thorough testing of the release and find more bugs that would then have to be fixed, because if you don&#8217;t find bugs in advance you can&#8217;t fix them, and so you might release on time, but with bugs.</p>
<p>So they found the bugs in advance, and said, &#8216;oh, we know about these bugs, and etch can&#8217;t be released till they&#8217;re fixed&#8217;. This forces us to release a better product, but later, which is what the Debian community tends to focus on anyway.
</p></blockquote>
<p>And this one is really good, it speaks truth about Debian. Especially if you are worried about flame wars in Debian lists.</p>
<blockquote><p>When you can have people who are working in direct opposition to each other end up essentially working together to produce something better, that seems really amazing.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.dunc-tank.org/"><br />
Dunc-Tank.org</a> was an experiment to see if funding would help Debian. It was a project not officially part of Debian but Debian Project leader spearheading it!</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Praveen A</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not able to read this? Downlaod Rachana Malayalam Unicode font from here. ????????? ?????? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ???????? ????????????????? ?????? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????????? ????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ?????????????? ????????????????? ????? ???????????? (????????????????) ????????????????? ?????????????? ???????????????????. ????? ?????????? ?? ?????? ???????? (?????????? ???????????? ????????? ????????????? ???????) ????? ?. ??. ????. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not able to read this? Downlaod Rachana Malayalam Unicode font from <a href="http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/smc/Rachana_w01.tar.gz">here</a>. </p>
<p>????????? ?????? ??????????????? ??????? ?????</p>
<p>???????? ????????????????? ?????? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ????????? ?????? ??????????????? ???????? ?????? ?????????????? ????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ?????????????? ????????????????? ????? ???????????? (????????????????) ????????????????? ?????????????? ???????????????????. ????? ?????????? ?? ?????? ???????? (?????????? ???????????? ????????? ????????????? ???????) ????? ?. ??. ????. (????????????????? ????????? ?????????? ????????????????? &#8211; ????????? ??????????? ?????????? ????????????? ??????????????????????) ??????????.</p>
<p>????????? ?????? ????????????????? ??????????? ???????? ?????????? http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/SMC ???? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.</p>
<p>?????? ????? ???????????????????????? ???????? ???????????????? ???? ????????????????? ????????? ???????.</p>
<p>1. <a href="http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/????????? ?????? ??????????????/??????????????/???????? 26 2006">???????? 26 2006, ???, ?????????</a><br />
2. <a href="http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/????????? ?????? ??????????????/??????????????/????????? 1 2006">????????? 1 2006, ???, ?????????</a></p>
<p>??????? ????? ??????????????? ???????? ????/??????? ???????????? ??????????????? ????????? &#8216;?????&#8217; ???????????? ????????????? ????????????? ??????. ????? ???? ??? ???????????? ???????? ???????????? ????????????? ???????? ?????????????? ???? ????? ?????????. ? ??????? ????? ????????????????? ?????? ?????????????? (??????? ????????? ????? ??????? ?????? ??????????? ????????????? ??? ??????????????) ?????????? ??????? ??????????????? ???????????????????. ??????????? ????? ????? ????????? ????????? ??? ?????????? ?????????????????. ?????????? (??? ??????? ???????????? ???????) ?? ????????? ??????? ????? ?????? ????????????????. ??????????? ???? ???? ???????? ?????????????? ??????????. ??????? ???????????? ??? ???? ?????????????. </p>
<p>????? ?????????? ??????? ????? ????? ???????????? ????????? http://www.archive.org/details/dhvani_malayalam_alpha.wav.<br />
aplay -f cd -r 8000 dhvani_malayalam_alpha.wav ???? ???? ?????????? ??? ?????????????????.</p>
<p>???????? ????? ??? ????????????????????? (??? ??????????? ??????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????????????? ????? ??? ????????????????????) ?????????????? http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/debian/malayalam/installer ???? ????????????? ???????????? ????????.<br />
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??????? ?????????? ????? ?????? ??????????????? ????????????? ???????????? ??????????? ????????????. ?????????????????? ????????? ???????? ???????????????? ???????????? ?????????? ???????????????????????????? ????????? ????????? ????????????? (??????, ?????) ?????????? ????????????? ??? ??????????????? ??????????????? ????????????????????. ???????????? ????????????</p>
<p>?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+? ????? ???????? ????? ???????? ???????????????? ???????????? ?????????? ?????????? ????????????????? ????????? ??????????? ??????????.</p>
<p>???????????????? ???????????? ???????????? ??? ?????? ?+?+? ???????? ???? ?+?+? ??????? ????????????????????????. ??????? ??????? ?????????? ????????? ???????????<br />
?+?+__?+?+?__+?+?+?+?+?+?+? ????????? ?????????? ?+?+? ???????? ???? ??? ????? ????????????. ????? ????? ??????????????? ??????? ?????????? ?????????????????. ????? ???????<br />
?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+?+? ????????? ????? ?????????? (????????????? ? ????????????????????? ????? ??????????, ???? ??? ????? ???????????????????????)</p>
<p>??????? ??????????? ??_?_??? ???????????????. ??? ?????????????? ?????????? ????? ????? ??????? ???????. </p>
<p>??? ????????????? ??? ??????????? ???? ?????????????? ?????? ?????? ???????????????? ???????. ???? ?????????????? ???+? ??????? ????????? (???? ??????????????? ???? ????? ????????????????). ????????????? ????? ???? ?????????? ????? ??? ?????????? ????????????? ??????????.</p>
<p>??? ??????????????? ??? ??? ????? ??????????????? ???? ??? ???????? ?+?+? ????? ????? ????????????????? ???????????? ???????????????? ?????? ???????? ????????. ?????? ????????? ????????? ???????????? ??????? ????????????? ???????? ?????? ???????????????? ????????? ???????. ?????????????? ???? ????????? ?????????? ????/?????????? ????????????? ?????????????????????? ???????? ????????. ?????????? ????? ????? ????? 6 ?? ?????? ???????????????? ?????????? ?????????? ???????? ??????????? ??????? ???????????? ??????????????. ? ??????????? ????????????????????? ????????? ???????????? ?????? (????? ????) ?????????? ????????????????? ??????????????????????. ????? ??? ??????? ?????????? ?????? ????????? (??? ????) ????????????????? ??????????????. ????? ???? ?????? ??????? ????? ?????????????? ??????????????? ?????????? (900 ??????????? ????????????? ?????????????? ??? ?????????????, ???????? ?????????????? ??? ??????????????????). ???????????? ???????????????????????? ???????? ????? (?????? ?????????????, ?????? ???????????) ??? ???? ?????????????????? ?????????? ????? ???? ??????????????????? ???????? ???????????????.</p>
<p><a href="http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/????????? ?????? ??????????????/??????????????/????????? 2-4 2006">????????? 2-4 2007, ????. ?. ??., ??????????</a> ????????????? ????? ???????? ????? ????????????????????. ?????????????? ???????.</p>
<p>??? ????? ???????????????????? ??? ????????????????? ????? (?????????? ?????????) ?????????? ????????????????.</p>
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		<title>Debian Conclave @ BMS</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 06:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Praveen A</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had a very interesting session at BMS last sunday (29th October) on Debian. The main aim was to discuss the plans for the upcoming Debian Developers Confererence 06, which will be organised as a Debian MiniConf during FOSS.IN 06 . We got very enthusiastic and positive participation from the audience, mostly students from BMS [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a <a href="http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Debian/Conf/06/Conclave">very interesting session at BMS</a> last sunday (29th October) on Debian. The main aim was to discuss the plans for the upcoming <a href="http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Debian/Conf/06">Debian Developers Confererence 06</a>, which will be organised as a Debian MiniConf during <a href="http://foss.in/2006">FOSS.IN 06 </a>.  We got very enthusiastic and positive participation from the audience, mostly students from BMS College of Engineering and some from Bangalore Institute of Technology and Dayanand Sagar College of Engineering. </p>
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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pravi/285443328/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/111/285443328_0cb02a4924.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="j4v4m4n_n_tuxmaniac" /></a><br /> A session on GIMP Image Editing<br />
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<p>We had four of us (me, Deepak, Prasad and Aanjhan) delivering sessions. I started with introduction to Debian Operating System and the Debian community. It was a wonderful experience to talk to an audience which understood the importance of Freedom, thanks to our previous sessions  ( <a href="http://www.pravi.co.nr/2006/09/16/software-freedom-day/">Software Freedom Day</a>  and <a href="http://www.pravi.co.nr/2005/10/03/foss-day-at-bmsce/">FOSS Day</a> ) there and a talk by RMS himself (See some photos <a href="http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/bmslug/photos/browse/5ac8">here</a>, but you need to be a member of bmslug to view this). You can get the presentations as <a href="http://plus.sarovar.org/contents/presentations/praveen_a/Debian-intro.odp">odp</a> or <a href="http://plus.sarovar.org/contents/presentations/praveen_a/Debian-intro.pdf">pdf</a>. I talked about the differences between various flavours (distributions)  of GNU/Linux and what makes Debian unique. Debians strong values (<a href="http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract">Debian Social Contract and Debian Free Software Guidelines</a>), superiour packaging (dpkg and apt with automatic dependency tracking), availability of <a href="http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages">large number of packages</a> (18000+), completely democratic functioning to mention a few. The I talked about some of the materials available to them like <a href="http://www.debian.org/doc/books">books</a> and online resources. I also mentioned about <a href="http://debian-in.alioth.debian.org/index.shtml">Indian efforts in localising Debian</a> and <a href="http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Debian">Indian Debian Community</a> in general. </p>
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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/pravi/285443326/" title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/112/285443326_9df76ddf80.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Deepak" /></a><br /> Deepak Kumar Tripathi on package management in Debian<br />
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<p>Deepak Kumar Tripathi then talked about various package management commands (apt-get family) and also about how one can take up maintaining an <a href="http://www.us.debian.org/devel/wnpp/">orphaned package</a>. Aanjhan showed some cool 3D effects with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIGLX">AIGLX</a> and <a href="http://www.beryl-project.org/">beryl</a> window manager on his laptop after lunch. </p>
<p>After that Prasad Kadambi talked about <a href="http://debian-in.alioth.debian.org/index.shtml">debian-in</a> (Debain for India) and why it is important to our country. You can get the slides as <a href="http://people.inf.in/prasad/conclave.odp">odp</a> or<a href="http://people.inf.in/prasad/conclave.pdf"> pdf</a>.</p>
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<p>There was a popular demand for a session on GIMP and I showed them some of the features of GIMP which I use regularly like joining two or more pictures, creating logos, editing with layers &#8230; </p>
<p>There was really good questions from the audience, most of them using Fedora. One asked how to start developing Free Software rather than packaging? Aanjhan explained it will be good to start in a small way like reporting bugs and solving them and being a part of the community by undersatnding how the community works, coding styles and standards &#8230; rather than jumping off directly to developing your own application. </p>
<p>It was a very wonderful day, even though I was completely tired after the sessions it was worth it. BMSLUG, you folks rock!</p>
<p><a href="http://netravathib.blogspot.com/2006/10/debian-meet-at-bmsce.html">Read Netra&#8217;s blog about the event</a>.</p>
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